Celebrating Humanity and Finding Freedom with Jeff Morton
In this heartwarming and thought-provoking episode of The You World Order Showcase, Jill Hart reconnects with Jeff Morton, host of the Let's Talk About It podcast. Together, they dive into topics like the power of storytelling, finding freedom through personal responsibility, and the beauty of celebrating everyday people. Jeff shares his journey of transitioning from structured religious systems to a life centered on appreciating humanity and creating impactful conversations.
Listen in as Jeff talks about his podcast’s mission to amplify the voices of ordinary people doing extraordinary things and the profound lessons he’s learned from history, personal growth, and meaningful connections. From overcoming societal divisions to the transformative power of a smile, this episode is an inspiring reminder to embrace the best in ourselves and others.
Connect with Jeff:
- Website: FreeFromFearUS
- Email: jsmorton@protonmail.com
- Podcast: Let’s Talk About It
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And welcome Hi, and welcome to the You World order showcase. Podcast I'm your host, Jill Hart. And with us today is a dear friend of mine from very long ago named Jeff. Morton and Jeff is also a podcast host of the podcast let's talk about it, welcome to the show. Jeff.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Hey? Thank you, Joe. A pleasure to be here. I appreciate the invitation we've been good to reconnect as well.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It is really good to reconnect, and we full disclosure. We met through my Torah observance days
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: which the listeners all
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: pretty much know or should know by now that I deconverted a few years ago. And and it's really the reason why I started the podcast was my deconversion process and and finding hope in the world because I was. I was feeling like the world was ending, and there was no hope. And what's the point?
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Yeah, well, I I mean the biggest thing that I
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: that I appreciate about everything is just hope.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: you know. So I have this fantastic love for people.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and I began for me it was more of a freedom as opposed to a deconstruct.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Once I realized that
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: a lot of the Torah based. Ministries were, in my opinion, a church service with its elite draped over them, and everybody wanted to be a 1st century Jew, and I was like, oh, there's gotta be. There's got to be a way that this has, you know. It just became another religious system to me, although I do absolutely believe in a lot of what I learned.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I just don't see it from a religious purview anymore. And so I thought.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: you know, why don't we just make a podcast about people
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and and appreciate people. And that's what let's talk about. It's all about really, Joe.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, and and giving people a platform to to share what they're doing, because everybody's doing something really amazing out there in the world.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You know. I
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: that was the heart of why I did what I did. You know. You see, the podcast. Folks out there, you know they bring the high powered guests in the political people, the famous people. And I thought, Where's the average person? Where's the guy who or the woman who just wants is making a difference in the life of somebody else.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: or has something a story to tell that that we can all kind of agree with, where are those people in the podcast world? And so let's talk about it is my
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: it's my segue away from all of the reasons. Everybody wants to be in front of a camera, or everybody has something. Well, let's just appreciate the people who actually do have something to say or have made a difference in somebody's life unless it could be your neighbor could be the guy at the grocery store. It could be the woman who's taking care of 5 kids for a family. Let's talk about that person without all of the stuff.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: because they're just people. They're just people. And they
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: let's appreciate one another. Really, that's the heart of let's talk about it. I really didn't mean that.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that and it it's really it's the heart of the U World Order. In my opinion. Also, in that we are all
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: we're all gifted with something, and we're all special, you know. It's not like, just because you're famous for 15 min for doing something. And a lot of times people are famous for doing things that
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: all that nice
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: in the the grand scheme of things, whereas everybody has something beautiful that they're doing or have done, or are contributing to making the world a better place.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If it's just, you know
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: they pick up after their dog when they take their dog for a walk. I mean, that's something that's
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: somebody appreciates that.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: No, I was. Gonna well, go ahead and finish your statement. I don't wanna interrupt it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I was I was talking to a person yesterday, and I happen to be in a restaurant, and there was a senior gentleman sitting at the table behind us, and he, kinda
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: he said, I don't mean to interrupt your conversation, but, he chimed in on a couple of things we were talking about. I ended up sitting there talking with this 85 year old man
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: who had a fascinating story to tell and unbelievable artwork.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I thought I was looking at photographs, and they were pencil drawings, and I thought. You know, this is the kind of thing I wanted. I'm invited to be on my show. He's not connected to the Internet. He doesn't have, you know he's not one of those people. He's from that generation, he said. Well, I have to do it in person, because I'm not good at the electronic bite you over to the house for dinner
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: these 85 year olds, these 80 year olds, these 90 year old people. They have a story to tell.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and if you're willing to sit down and listen for 5 min, which this generation doesn't really do, that, we kind of throw the elderly away. In my opinion. Not all.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: But I was fascinated by his story, and I'm always intrigued when somebody, the average person,
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: can get my attention because they have a story to tell. I just love. I love people.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: you know. If you're trying to cut my head off. I don't love you. Okay, I don't. I don't want to know you.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: but if you are just a person trying to survive, put food on the table, raise your kids, be a father, be a husband, make a difference in your community, and it's worthwhile to talk about.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You know, I, Jill, you gotta. I drive through cities.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And I look at what we've accomplished.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I see these towering skyscrapers, or then I drive around and I see neighborhoods, and I see people and I go look at what we are capable. Does anybody in this day and age celebrate the capability of just the average person? So I created this podcast you know. And I find out that I'm finding out that most people don't care about the average person.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Well, I do.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And so, with a growing audience, you know, I started this thing less than a year ago.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I care about that average person, and if they want to come on and talk about their lives, or something they're doing in their lives. That's what let's talk about. It is I wanted to name it. Let's talk about you. In fact, it is. Let's talk about you on spotify, because the name was already taken. But there's a whole lot of shows out there. Podcast they're called, let's talk about it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: So I didn't even think about that when I named it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: but I didn't change the name, because
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: my show is about talking about you. You're the it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: So come on and talk about it. Now there's certain things that I'm not really inclined to have on the broadcast.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: That's my personal preference. I mean, if you're
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: if you want to cut my head off. Don't. No, please don't send me an email to be on my podcast I don't. I don't want to know you.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: But I'm open to just about everything that is available in the lives of people that they want to talk about? Does that make sense.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It makes total sense. Yeah. And
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: yeah, you don't have to spend time with people that
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: don't feel good to be around. And
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and I think those people are, you know.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: There's enough of them.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You know, life. Life is a celebration to me, and it shouldn't be a depressing
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: end of the world. Kind of thing like what you what you mentioned earlier. It shouldn't be doom and gloom. It shouldn't.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Life is a celebration. It's like a gift. I always tell people, Joe.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: thank God, I'm not a rock under somebody's porch, right?
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Because there's there's no life in that, I mean.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: unless somebody picks me up and throws me in the water. I'm gonna be that rock out of the porch, and I just don't think that that's
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: thank God, I mean, really, thank God, I'm not an inanimate object that has no voice, no thought, no process, and that I can interact with the people that I share this particular time with. I think it's a beautiful thing I really do.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that we can connect with people all over the world in a space that doesn't even exist.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I couldn't agree with you more, I think. You know.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: to talk to some. I have. People call me from India.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's just 3 o'clock in the morning.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I've had more than a few people call me from the other side of the world.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and I'm asleep when I get up, and I talk to him.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I think that's a myth. I think that's kind of cool, but
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: not always, you know. Not always. But I agree with you to have this technology and to be able to talk to people all over the world. I get emails from all over the world.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And I've even had to Google decipher some because I didn't know what they were talking about.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: But I think the technology brings us closer if we allow it to do that
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: as opposed to push us apart, and I think there's too much of that going on.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I do, too, and I
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: just the ability to be able to connect with people from so many different places. I remember when I was young. I I must have been maybe 10 or 11. We lived in Japan at the time, and we went to a museum, and they had what they called a vision, which was basically zoom.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And we'd stood on either side of this board. But we could see each other on the screen, and I I always remember that when Zoom 1st came out it's like
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's here, but I can talk with people from far away and see what they look like, which is
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: kind of cool.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I have people that are apprehensive. They say, Well, I don't really feel
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: feel in fact, one per particular person.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: her. Podcast. She did a show with me, she said. I don't. I don't feel.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: you know good enough to do this.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And I said, Well, what does that have to do with anything? Do you have a story to tell? She said. Yes. Well, she wrote a book.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and the story she told on the podcast was compelling very difficult
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and it it struck a chord with me because she was telling about the abuse and the things that she went through as a little girl.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and I think for the 1st time in my life
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I had never really thought about that kind of abuse
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: from the perspective of a female who's sharing it, you know I never.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I was able to put myself in her shoes and go. Wow! I've never thought about being a girl going through this at 12 or 13 years of age, and it was one of my most popular shows to this very day. So I'm like
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: she didn't realize that her story was compelling. And she she had this kind of mindset that
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: maybe I'm not good enough to do this. Well.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: it was. It was to me it was therapeutic, what she had to offer. So
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and and that's the thing about podcasting you. You never really know how impactful
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: somebody's story is going to be, or how it might affect somebody's life. And I think, like you, Joe.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: everybody's got something to share, and I think I can't.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I can't count how many times. Somebody's called me.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Having listened to my podcast. Or seen something, I post and they go.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You know, that just made a huge difference. Thank you. For this. I get that all the time. Actually, in particular, from Facebook.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I'm I'm trying to learn Instagram kind of sort of.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: But Facebook has been a place that I have parked my world for a while. Now.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: obviously, I'm looking for other other places to do what I do.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Youtube's banned me a few times they shadow banned me so I mean, hey.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Not anybody. If you haven't been banned from Facebook or Youtube.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: My category. Okay, I'm a Biblical believer, but not a church believer.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I am conservative in my way of thinking about things. Not. And I wrote a book called Uncolored Race. So I'm not racially inclined. I'm not involved in the racial identities. I'm just a guy
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: who who has a particular position in my the way, I think.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and I don't. I don't think I need to go to church to. To make that
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: point. I don't think I need to go stand in front of a black audience and say, Hey, I've never been black and proud. I was black and poor, as my mother used to say all the time.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I'm I'm an American citizen who who just believes.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and the freedoms that we have
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and and the growth of this nation. And I just see life as being something to appreciate.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And when you start getting into all these different things, then you.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To divide us.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Is, that.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Absolutely. That's not all.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Goal is just to make us angry with each other when there's nothing to be angry about made.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Bye.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's not that there aren't situations, and I'm not. Gonna I'm going to bring this up because
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I do know people who have been affected by things like being pulled over by police officers, and
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: because of their color they fear for themselves. That's wrong, and it it should not exist, and
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I feel very strongly about that. But you can't I?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: When when you start doing all this race stuff, I think it just makes that kind of problem much worse.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Well, you you said it best. It's to divide. I've been pulled over by cops who were idiots.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and so I look at the police in general, and I go. Thank God, we got police! But every once in a while I got an idiot. I've had neighbors who were idiots.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I have family members who are idiots. There's an idiot everywhere. You look so I.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Everywhere.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I I find that you know, because of where we are today.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: It's easier to not lower myself to idiocy
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: because of my own self respect. So when I'm dealing with that type of person that's their issue, I don't have to adopt it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: The love of people is much more rewarding
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: than to be caught up in stupid I call it caught up in stupid. I don't want to do stupid. I don't want to be in your life doing stupid, and I don't want you in my life doing stupid. And so I look for the person and the individual who's not a part of all that, you know.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and and to me, I mean, that's really the
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: the joy of humanity is coming together. Not not celebrating stupid.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I wrote, I wrote the book on Carling Wraith.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and the only reason why I didn't call it uncoloring stupid
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: was because I didn't want it to be in your face kind of thing.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: But while I'm writing the book.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Actually, I want to re-release it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I wrote another book, and I didn't publish it. It's called politically incorrect on purpose, and it was so hard
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: when I reread the manuscript a couple of times where
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I can't put this out there. This this is just adding to division.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: so I didn't. I never published the book, but doing the.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Verdict to write it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: It was
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: when I wrote that book I was pissed off. To be honest with you. If you want to know the truth, I was so sick of the race.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: the all this stuff.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: all these words that we had to say or couldn't say, and all these different things that I'm like, can't we just be neighborly? Can't we have a little civility? Do we have to say? Well, you can't say that I got kicked off of a website that I
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: because I pronounced the name wrong
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and they kicked me off the website because I refused to to. It's like, Are you kidding me?
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Who's got time for this. So I was like, Okay, kick me off. I'm better off for it. We'll go down the road.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: It just doesn't make any sense to me
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: to not allow a person. If you're gonna allow a person in your life, allow them in your life. Okay, allow them to be, whoever they are in your life.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: If it gets to the point where that's not a good thing, it's not a healthy thing. Then you have a choice to make, but don't prejudge them at the gate.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You know I have. There's a particular person.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: He's brilliant.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: He's of the LGBT community. I'm not necessarily a fan of the LGBT mindset when it's forced on me. This guy I love this guy.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I absolutely love this guy, and whatever his life is like behind, whatever it is. That's his business. But he's a brilliant person, and that should be the 1st thing we see in people. And I just I just believe that. However.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: that's a hard point to get across. If you're pigeoned into a particular
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: oh, you'd be surprised. I've been called Uncle Tom. I've been called Oreo. I've been called all these names. The one thing I haven't been called is by my 1st name.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and and I don't have time for people who can't.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I guess what I'm trying to say, Jill, is, I have enough self respect
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: to where your disrespect doesn't bother me. I don't let it bother me.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And I open my life up to people. That's why I do the podcast
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: so you know, if it gets to Lulu, okay, probably you're not a good candidate. I might
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: on my podcast but believe you, me, I'm going to be the one to make that decision.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: It's my podcast okay. But everybody's welcome. Everybody's invited until you're uninvited. That's kind of how I look at it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You know.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You know your name means Traveler.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: No, I didn't know that.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: My husband and my son and my father-in-law are all Jeffries.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Oh, you're kidding, really.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Wow!
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You should feel right at home.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I do. I do. I'm just like Oh.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: another Jeff in my life I like Jeff's.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Well, you know what I found out. I want to get steer back to the podcast. I did a podcast. With a biblical scholar. We had 10,000 listeners. I mean, it was huge.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Then I decided to do this. I've been doing this, Joe, for a while now. I started with a radio show on Salem communication down in Seattle had to drive Seattle every Sunday to do my show, and they wouldn't tell me what my listenership was, which I thought was odd, but the cost to do this
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: people were sponsoring me to do this show. I only found out after I decided not to do the show, because I felt guilty with people spending that much of their money to put me on the show for an hour down in Seattle I felt guilty.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: It was when I decided I'm not going to do this anymore. Then they let me know how my listenership was.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Well, I don't know if that was their way of dragging more money out of me, and I thought
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I I can't ask people to support.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You know that much money.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Trust me. I like support. Don't, don't misunderstand me. I just felt guilty, plus. I had to drive Seattle to do it every Sunday, I thought, well, let's look at the Internet.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And so I started looking at the Internet. And I realized, Man, this is a lot cheaper. So I bought the equipment. And I've been doing this kind of thing for a long time. Now, this is the very 1st podcast that I set off to do on my own
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: because for one reason, and one reason only, to to meet people who are making a difference in the lives of other people, and get away from all of the anti stuff
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: to just be people
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: that share a story. And I thought, Well, okay, I'll do this. I'll convert this room in my home and we'll make it happen. And I'm not trying to teach anybody anything I'm not trying to encourage. Well, I want to encourage people to be okay, being people. But I'm not. I'm not trying to pour something into your head.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I what I try to do is get people to just go back and look
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: at what it's like today.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: They released the
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: All of the documentation on the assassination of John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, and Martin Luther King. That's been released today.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: When I think.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: It. Yeah. President Trump released all this information. He declassified it all. And so for me, because I'm history driven. Let's go back and see what the truth was.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Well, I'm always challenging people to go back and and see what what's either been revised, what you've been lied to
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: that part of me. I'm always going to do because I'm a history fanatic.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: But to have somebody come on my show and just share their story.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: That's what let's talk about it is all about, and I I want to give them the platform to just
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: be the housewife who's got a problem, or the alcoholic who's recovered or the child is
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: gone through a difficult thing.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Give those people a voice.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: If that's what this podcasting is all about and that's kind of my heart to do this. But if you want to know a little bit about history
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: we can have that conversation, too, because I love history.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love history, too. I love how history has kind of changed over the years. We're both old enough that we remember things which is kind of interesting when you talk to people who don't really remember. And I have a good memory
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: like something will happen today, and and people will be like, oh, this is a terrible thing. It's like we. We didn't get here in a vacuum. Hello!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There was stuff that that happened way back that led to this, this event, that, just like
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: suddenly the cataclysm erupted.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You know it's funny, because I can take a 16 year old kid.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and ask them what is the cassette?
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And they don't know what is a what is a
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: A track clueless?
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: They have no concept of it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: The same thing is true about history. Unfortunately.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I can ask a 16 year old or 17 year old.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: What do you know about the Us. Constitution or
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: or anything? I mean, we go all the way back to just the Aids thing.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: They don't know how many people died there. There's no.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Or who was involved in it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Yes, hopefully, that'll.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Close circles back around to the thing that we just went through.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Those were connected, but people don't realize that they were very much connected.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: We don't realize that Fauci was there, and here they don't.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: so. But then there's 16 year, and we're also you and I I'm I'm sure we could say this.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: We're dealing with a whole different kind of generation of people
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: when you're under 20 years old, or even when you're under 30. It's kind of funny. Now we're at this age where those who came before us. They know this already.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Yeah, I think about it. Let me let me throw this at you, Joe, 1980, was
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: 45 years ago.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Such a golden age!
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: So. So if you go 45 years back
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: from 1980, you're 1945.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And I sit here. Did I get the math? I don't think I got the math, but
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I mean, I think about that, and I go.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: This thing moves so fast, so fast. If you don't take time to enjoy
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: the goodness that life offers us, you're gonna miss it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And I think the goodness that life offers us is almost always in the life of other people.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I just do. I think
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: you know, you know, when you sit I watch the videos of this of the service member coming home and surprising people.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love those.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: For the.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The the person who puts on the colored glasses for the 1st time so they could see color. I sit in my you can ask my wife and testify here.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I sit down there watching these videos
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: with tears pouring down my face, because I love to see people
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: or when I watch. I've watched these shows with everybody's a singer.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: but I love to see people celebrated.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and those ones of the soldiers coming home.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: That's instant tears for me, instant tears for me or families being reunited.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Interesting! I said, I, I have to sit there with a box of kleenex. My wife goes. Will you turn that off?
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Because I love. I love to see people.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I remember one particular one, this kid
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: he he wanted to. He found the car the 1st car that is, Father God.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: He found it, had it restored and gave it to his dad
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I I remember that I bubble over that because I love to see the goodness of people.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I mean, I just do. I just love to see the goodness in people, and particularly when it affects the life of other people, lives of other people. I
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: if if I die tomorrow, I want to be remembered for that part of who I am
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I thought Hitler was amazing. But for all the wrong reasons. Okay.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I mean, he was, I mean, but he almost. He almost controlled the entire Europe.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And and it's as evil as what his motive was. Behind all of that
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: he he almost accomplished something that would have been horrible for the whole world.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I don't celebrate him, but it. It takes something to do that.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And I think, for all the wrong reasons. Well, on the other side of all of that is.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: then there's the people who make the biggest difference, and we remember them because of what they did in the lives of other people for their benefit. I remember my mother said to me, you know you you've manipulated me many times, she said. Have you ever thought about manipulating people for their benefit? And I never forgot those words
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I said, well, mom, I guess what you're telling me is manipulation is a bad thing. He says. Yeah, the way you use it. You can't manipulate your mother.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: But have you ever thought to do good for somebody else as opposed to what you're doing with me? She she gave me a little speech about all that.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Well, I never forgot it, you know her. Her comment was.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: from somebody. Don't be a taker. I guess that was the bottom line.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Anyway, definitely a giver. Jeff definitely a giver.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Well, so are you. I mean, we go back about gosh, I can't remember how long
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I like how you use the word dev. Did you say devolve.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Deconverting.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Deconverting. Okay for me, it just got nutty.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I I see those kinds of things as the ultimate form of division.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Guess I felt, and I was feeling like I was getting trapped. And when I just
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I just pushed it all away, and I felt this immediate release.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If and it's freedom, it's it's the freedom to think how I want
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to be responsible. Personal responsibility. I'm a big believer in that. But.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Me too.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The movement was getting to the point of you know everybody had to follow exactly certain standards, and if you deviated, then there was something wrong with you. And and then there was all this infighting, and among different factions of it, it just got to the point of like, who needs all this drama in their life. I thought this was supposed to bring me peace.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I, I you, you! It wasn't just. The uniformity was that they were all different.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and if you weren't part of that difference you were excommunicated. I was like this is starting to feel like church.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: To the point to where I was like I got. I can't do this.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: What happened to me, though something happened to me when I was in Greece.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And I. I was walking down one of the ancient roads.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And I I begin to see something about
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: based on what the the tour guide was telling us.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I went.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: These people are.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: These people were not different than us
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: that I mean, I'm I'm walking through cities that were made of marble.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: you know, I mean beautiful. And and then they had the they had the artist rendition of what it would look like at different plaques and whatnot I'm looking at. I'm going. How did they do this, Jill. There were. There was a sarcophagus there. I can't remember where I was. I think it was in Corinth.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: it was broken, but it was part of a sarcophagus that a person would have been buried in, and I rubbed my hand over the carvings on the marble. I mean, this is as smooth as a baby's rear end. These people were amazing
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and and and yet they had the wars, and they were fighting, and they had
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: human behavior doesn't change. What would happen if we just celebrated one another instead of killed one another? I mean, that's always the platitude that we're all after. But the fact of the matter is especially here in Washington State. I got neighbors, people living next door to each other for 10 years and don't know each other, and I didn't grow up that way. But I thought those people in the ancient world they're just like us. They just lived in a different time.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: they had the same dislikes. I don't like that person. Well, that person it was just.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and I went. You know what I'm no different
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And I just realized what? What can we appreciate about one another first.st
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And I've I've been that way for most of my. In fact, when I was a child
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I grew up in the ghettos of upstate Rochester, New York, and I learned about racial hatred from black people.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And I remember thinking as a 1312 year old kid, I don't wanna be like that.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: of some injustice that happened to somebody else.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and I mean, I I understand and acknowledge the injustices. But
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I can go back 2,000 years and see the same kind of injustice. And I just didn't want to be that person
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Yep, yeah. I found when it comes to racial prejudice and stuff like that, I went.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: It's about it's kind of like the same thing, Joe.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: When I decided that was not going to be a part of who I am.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You call me in the name of the book. My freedom doesn't allow that to mess with me, because I'm free in my mind. I don't have to think that way. It's the same thing with my belief.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I'm free. I interviewed on my podcast a guy who's spent several years learning hypnotism, hypnotism.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and he did the both there. I went to one of his things and I had the freedom
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: to to say, that's okay. And and I'm learning about frequency, healing, and all kinds of things that are just amazing. And sure enough.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: a letter popped up, or a notice that popped up on on Facebook. Well, this stuff is from the devil. And I was like.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I was like, Okay, well, I I don't have to let that impact me anymore.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Because the guy has helped so many people quit smoking.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: He's helped so many people with anxiety, and I understand frequency. It's to me it's like, it's like mind blowing. So I'm free to appreciate the things that are there, not what we've done to him to make them bad.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Yeah, I just.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We don't even have to have an opinion about them. We could.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Right.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Accept them for what they are. You know, it's like.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: so often people want to label things because they A don't understand them. And B.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If, unless they label it, they don't know where they stand on the situation. You don't have to stand anywhere. You can just let it be.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: People can have opinions, and you may not agree with them, but you don't have to say anything. You have the freedom to keep your mouth shut sometimes.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You know you could be wrong a million ways, but the only person who doesn't know it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Where's you?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: So so. And I, you know I get in trouble sometimes because I'm pretty opinionated. And I sometimes I I put my foot in my mouth.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: But there are absolutes about me that I'm not going to change because it might be offensive to you. You're in my life, and I'm going to try to appreciate you for who you are and what you are, and I might say something stupid. I might say something really offensive, but when I realize it's really offensive I'll be the 1st person to apologize. Okay.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and you can't step into my life, and tell me that who I am is wrong.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You disagree.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: With me, but you can't tell me that I'm wrong, and that my life is wrong, and that I'm wrong, and you're and and then disconnect from me.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: because to me that's like, it's like cutting your own.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You know, I used to tell people this.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: if it wasn't for the ability to watch other people walk. I would have never learned how to walk as a child.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and so I believe the best gift you get in life is almost always gonna come from somebody else.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and you're either gonna hurt that situation or you're going to brace that situation. I think people are the best teachers
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: of one another. You just have to allow it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: There are some absolutes that I absolutely don't deal with.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: or or, to be honest and to be completely transparent. I hate that word.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: There are some biases that I have that probably aren't very healthy.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: But so is every human being that I can come in contact with. You know what I mean.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He does.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You know what I mean.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it's okay. We don't have to judge one another. We can just appreciate
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We don't have to have an opinion on it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: then you're gonna get that kind of response. It's not going to be good. But when you're celebrating somebody and helping I find it this way.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: There's there's when you do something really good for somebody. The the way it flows
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: is just magical. It's like watching a miracle happen in somebody's life
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: when you treat somebody's life horrible, and you treat them bad and whatnot. It's just the opposite.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: You get to see the negativity that's been fostered. I talked to this person not too long ago
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: yesterday, as a matter of fact, and I said, You know a lot of the stuff you're talking about belongs to the person who inflicted this on you. It's not yours. You don't have to own it.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: but a lot of people own the abuse and the hurt. And I'm like I told somebody a pastor
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: a while ago, I said, you know you sit here and you talk about the abuse of this individual.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and I said, you're telling me about his issue.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Get rid of it. It doesn't belong to you. It's never! It was never you!
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And he he pulled the truck over.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Tears come down his eyes. Nobody's ever said that to me. I never really thought about it that way, and I think a lot of it. Sometimes the abuse that we deal with that's forced upon us or inflicted on us. It wasn't your problem, it was their problem. And you have to kind of distinguish how much of that you're going to be invested in.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: It's again we use the word freedom
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: when when you're free from all that stuff.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: it just solidifies your individuality. And I think that's wonderful.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I, when you get to be 65 years of age?
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: because, after all the experiences and whatnot, if you're not okay with yourself at 65,
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And I you know the thing is, is when you appreciate people, the world is less impatient.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And and you you know I I in fact, I had somebody the other day. Was it yesterday or today? That's the other promise. But I don't have your memory.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: She walked past me with a great big smile on her face, and said, Hello! Which is not common here in Washington State.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: And I just went.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: man, I miss that because that's how it was in New York. Everybody spoke to each other when I was growing up here. People walk past you when they get close to you. They put their head down, and I've never, never been used to that.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: So she had this great big smile on her face, she said, How are you? And I said, Fine, how are you? And we kept moving, and it just
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: somebody wrote this. It was. This isn't for me, but he said.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I was reading something, and I'm quoting, and I can't remember who it was, he said. A smile is a gift
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I think that's true.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: A smile is a gift given to you, but met for someone else.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I think that's that's I just have always thought that was profound. It might, it might not be, but but I thought it was profound. It's stuck with me.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Profound, too. And I was gonna ask you, what's the one thing you hope the audience takes away from our conversation today? I think that's it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Smile.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Yeah, I think.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: if you want to be on my podcast, just kind of connect with me. My email address is Js. morton@protonmail.com
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I would say that the the I love people.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: My heart is to love people and my spirit.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: It's to love people.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: My soul is to love people.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and that's I guess that's the best way to describe me.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: I'm I'm not an African American. I'm an American citizen.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: just appreciate people appreciate. If you look in the mirror folks what I tell myself when I look in the mirror, I try to see my best friend, because the 2 of us have a lot to offer.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: and that that's my final word on the thing.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that, and you can find out more about Jeff. If you go over to Freefromfearus, and you can reach him at jsmorton@protonmail.com. And I'll put that information in the show notes. And again, his podcast is called
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Let's talk about it. So look him up.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He'd love, to chat with you.
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::Jeff Morton, Buckley, WA: Appreciate you, Joe. Thank you.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thank you. Jeff.
